worst 380 pistols

Stay away from any of the cheap aluminum pocket guns. Now, have a look at the biggest handguns. To the point of I wish these two models didnt even exist. It always feeds, fires and ejects regardless of what ammo I feed through it. That's why your comment on the necessity of range time with your carry ammo is dead on the money. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. All the .380s are snappy & regardless of how I adjust my grip, they all give me varying degrees of "trigger bite", leaving my trigger finger sore after shooting. I am not sure why Kimber was excluded from the list of .380's. The accuracy is very nice (I am going to paint my sights). But, all it took was a disassembly and careful stoning job. I think the human interface of the grip and trigger is different with each individual shooter. My edc is the Kahr. And in a .380, what's working for me might not work in someone else's pistol. The low-profile fixed sights are very basic, but they won't hang up on clothing when you draw, and capacity is 6+1. But my 99% of the time my CCW weapon of choice? Penetration is iffy, as is expansion. I practice double taps, two to center mass, two to the head. Another thing that affects recoil is the design of the handgun itself. There are pistols that can be relied upon to save your life in a surprise CQB pistol gunfight, and there are other pistols, like 380's, that do little more than make a handgun carrier feel safe. The 380 is in between the 22/25 pocket pistols and the 38spc/9mm sub compacts. Its always a good idea to shoot a gun to get a sense of how much recoil is present when the trigger is squeezed. What do you, or you guys, think about 380 caliber gun( converted zoraki) with extended mag? I went to Government schools too :-) but there is more than I can ignore. How about all that for $459.00 in a plastic box? Bersa Thunder 11. you a link to reset your password. Well, at least the one I have. Another 380 that didn't make this list, but considered top 5 on many others is the Bursa FireStorm. My mother comes to mind. Note: DOES NOT FIT Glock 43, Ruger LC380, and other larger frame 380's. Lastly, the size of the grip itself can also help you handle the recoil better. I have nothing bad to say about it except it feels cheaper than the others. Sadly, while we wish that were trueit isnt. My thoughts exactly when I read the authors comparisons between the the 380 and the 38 special. I recently purchased a S&W Bodyguard with the laser. I have a 1st edition LCP. And not just quality -as my wife pointed out, it has style. I just recently purchased the SW M&P .380 EZ which is also sweet. . I have the sig p238,Springfield armory 911,glock 42 and ruger lcp, I like my short trigger pulls but my lcp does have a decent enough trigger and recoils not bad! I strongly suggest that you practice with both for two reasons: Pocket .380s are great firearms if its what you carry for self-defense. kind of scary. I am quite accurate out to 10 yards and have gotten used to the recoil. I have a slim 9mm Taurus has never failed in any way my main carry. I have a Glock 42, which I love, and a Bersa Thunder which is always in my truck. S and W bodyguard is great if you can get used to the long , heavy trigger pull. Availability : In Stock I've had mine for 30+ years and carried it in an ankle holster. I simply bought it because of its price (too low to mention??? It comes as a 5 +1 with a grip and thumb safety. However, I definitely recommend anyone in the market for a superior and concealable .380 be sure to check out the 911. Happy with both options!!! I have several Sigs, S&Ws, Rugers, and a Glock 20, so I would have thought your list would serve. Yes but sig at least bought the rights to it from colt , Springfield just stole it. Cheers, The Taurus TCP is the top of the heap for reliability and value ..by far the most relaiable out there and great trigger also. Sometimes multiple things come together in one gun, and LCP II has it. Josh is an avid firearms enthusiast who fired his first gun when he was just 10 years old. I got rid of a bodyguard. My pistols are various makes and models from around the world and they have all (some with mild fit and finish work) become reliable for daily carry. I don't even own one (yetnext on the list). While the PPK is a nice gun, it is a bit dated. With the added magazine flair, my hand (including pinky finger) fits great. The object of concealed carry has only ONE OBJECTIVE.to stop the threat. They won't save your ass in a jam. The Sig was my carry weapon until I began carrying a ported barrel M & P 40 S&W with night sites. A slight correction. It is a solid piece of metal and helps dampen the recoil. The problem is that my LCP II ejects the spent shells into my forehead. G6 Research Radically Invasive Projectile (RIP) Ammo 380ACP. I have a Glock 20, which is a fine gun, but I found the Glock G42 unimpressive (felt like a clunky brick despite the smaller form factor.) Minimal recoil. (Even the slightly easier to carry 3" barrel models can provide fairly similar figures.) I shoot the 238 better than the 938, but not by much. By contrast, the .38 Special, when shot out of a revolver with the standard 4" barrel, easily gives kinetic energy figures of 280 foot-pounds, and with +P loadings from Corbon (and others) can deliver over 300 foot-pounds of energy. I still like my new 911 and have no complaints with it so far. I really like the feel of it but am debating between it and the LCP II. With even a loose fitting shirt it's incognito. Consider moving. The only way you're gonna hit your attacker is if you stick it in their gut and start pulling the trigger. While I dont personally own one, Ive fired my fair share and can say that they are reliable and accurate. Had a Keltec P3AT And will say I had no problems with it, that being said I have heard others not so lucky sold mine to a friend that had to have it when I bought my P238, once I polished the feed ramp on the Sig it worked flawlessly was pissed that I had to polish the feed ramp on a $575 dollar pistol when a $199.00 pistol ran like a champ. When you insert a fresh magazine, it will be easier to rack the slide this way as well. In low light they are just as bright as any nightsights I've seen and the added hi-viz feature for daylight conditions is just awsome. I'd suggest hitting local gun shops and getting a deal on some of the more"creatively designed" (ahem) versions out there. Para defensa bala semiwatcutter con penetrador. Teaching CCW to point and shoot in this situation rather than retreat is like advising suicide. Comfortable for pocket quick to aim and easy to hit your target. I like my RM380. Just wanted to say, I own 4 different caliber Taurus pistols and I am very satisfied with my 357 mag, 1911 Commander 45 acp, and 38 special. Now, contrary to the great internet gun forum 3 x 3 x 3 myth, my attackers were smart enough to begin the engagement at almost 10 yards distance, and before I had a chance to draw my pistol. Youll often hear people say that they buy two different types of ammo, only practicing with one of them. Curious on you opinion of Kimber Micro? PSs-I've owned/own Brownings, Rugers, Sigs, Smiths, Springfieldsadd Bersa to the list! The Judge). I always wanted something similar, but in a 9mm and something that had a better magazine release set up. These discussions are frequently exchanged between strictly internet gun forum aficionados (armchair commandos at best); so, perhaps, a little background information is in order: I once became very suddenly and very unexpectedly involved in a cleverly set up, triangulated, 3 shooter ambush; and there I was, right, at the center of the deadly triangle!. The higher-grade 911 (the original model) has superb (night) sights. Just your 2 cents? If youve ever seen James Bonds classic Walther PPK and wanted it, you might want to consider the Bersa Thunder or Firestorm instead! As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. You can still find some of the more garishly (rainbow?) BEST: Sig P238. You are crazy. Don't waste your time with this gun. Great performance and a 15+1 magazine. The Bodyguard seems to work best with Fiocchi fmj, Hydrasocks, and WWB. the gun, 7 rounds& the colt laser sight weigh in at 17 once . With a much lighter trigger, enhanced slide serrations, wider grip, impressive stippling job, and the ability to slide lock on the last round, the LCP II is a definitive improvement over other comparable .380 pocket guns. It's a good balance of weight and reliability. Best .380 (arguable, I know), best carry features (arguable, I know), best price for a P238 (can't argue there). I have no problem running ball and hollowpoint ammo in it. Other firearm owners have made a choice to carry a gun. Hell, it jams FMJ BALL AMMO after a few mags. Your last paragraph says it all Bullet placement is the key. 2) .410 for defensive, I strongly disagree with the assumptions made. For me the other pistols you mentioned don't fit my human make-up. I had to push really hard and when I finally got it into the mag well FOUR rounds came out of the slide opening! I frequently found that the holster had bumped the safety off, This was not an extreme problem as the .380 Government Model had the series 80 firing pin block; but it was something that shouldn't have been happening. With the stupid Defund the Police there are less Police and increased response times! Steel case hollow points seem to be the most disagreeable. A few BIG points about the Sig P238 that should be in most any article about them: The SIG P238 has a single-action trigger that is light, crisp and easy to shoot. I own a .380 and I'm confident it will neutralize an attacker upon the first of 1 or 2 shots. Carry it anyway you like, in a situation To clarify and in all fairness to Kahr many have no problem out of the box and many have experienced what I have (according to the forums). However, I highly recommend that you opt for the extended magazine to get use of your pinky and the extra round. I use old Supervel. Really surprised the Browning 1911 .380 didn't make the Top 5. It's worth a look. (Makes the "Judge" seem crude by comparison!). Do they consider the .38 Sp "puny"? Thanks for getting the Bersa Thunder 380 on the list. and pistols shooting shotgun rounds are very effective (e.g. It's not space age polymer, but rather a look a like of the ppk (James bond gun) for a much better price than the ppk, and functions just as well or better. The trigger and grip feel are top of the list imho. You missed It in your review but it is mechanically similar, but smaller than the non CC (conceal carry) model. (might even have been me Limp wristing it) but still it should cycle And the trigger is probably the LONGEST trigger EVER. I figured why not have 9mm since it's only slightly bigger yet still as easy to conceal comfortably. Solid stainless to reduce felt recoil and improve longevity, but only 19 oz. It fit my large hands and short fingers. I evaluated all of these and bought the Springfield 911. In order for you to effectively stop a threat, you need decent hollow point ammunition (if your area allows you to use it). It will digest about anything I throw in it, cheap ball ammo to top notch hollow points, its not finicky and the accuracy for me was great. I LOVED it for its size and wanted it to come in #1! This writer is SPOT ON w/the issue of firing & nothing happening w/the Bodyguard! Owned a S&W Bodyguard 380 for a couple years . I agree with you that the sights on the 911 are great for a pocket size pistol and I have no issue with them but I do like the sights on my P238 more. No, no, none of the handguns you recommend are a good 380 ACP choice, get yourself a Glock 25, that is like a Glock 19 but chambered in 380 ACP, that gun has almost no recoil and it is concealable but wait a minute, now I remember, you are in the USA so a Glock 25 is a no, no for you. had the 40 cal. You must be joking. (both very lightweight and extremely easy to conceal). Surprised it didnt make the list. My first handgun I ever purchased was a Bersa Thunder 380 standard capacity, 7+1. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. When you see a list of the Best .380s and the Beretta Cheetah is not on it there is something disingenuous going on. Still mystified by the issues with Hornady as that is my 9mm choice for personal and home defense. Super concealable with 10 rounds of .380 ACP although snappy. Can't go wrong with this one. The CPX3 has 10+1 capacity which trumps every single gun done in this review. But if I am wearing pants, belt, etc I opt for the Sig. Success ! The trigger pull was beyond bad. Sucks to hear about the pickiness of the P380. I've seen police videos when 4 shots from a .45 acp failed to stop an attacker. Winchester 209 Primers Shotshell The non-corrosive and all-weather primers provide quick reliable ignition in any shooting conditions. The 'P' series has a Lothar Walther match barrel - the thing is ridiculously accurate! I have a S&W Bodyguard. It is now my daily carry gun and probably will be from now on. As I remind you, that the PP Series Pistols, all have the sliding cover open, then fire the last ammunition, as it was and is the custom in all modern military weapons. But it did jam on the cheap stuff as well as Critical Defense .380 which I thought should have worked better. Same thing with big hands. The serrations on the LCP are also wider in order to get a better grip in slippery conditions when racking the slide. I can say that cheaply made ball ammo seemed to cycle fine in this six in the magazine, one in the chamber pocket pistol and so do a lot of others. My two sons, their wives, my wife and I, and my wife's sister all have the P238. Well interesting take though on all the ammo comparison charts I've seen on this site for popular handgun ammo I've yet to see the 9mm makarov mentioned and personally I carried a FEG PA-63 a hungarian made pistol though no longer on the market here carried it on me for least 5 years before I changed to a SiG P245 Compact due to the fact that I could Extremely easily find magazines available that fix in quiet extended size for the gun as it Accepted Magazines for the P220 as well which is a common officer carry ever since been a SiG guy still got the p245 but switched to a p938 Texas edition few years back But I'll Say this about the 9mm makarov and the FEG PA-63 at that, that is one gun to this day I regret selling but the local gunshop owner wanted it as a carry as he had one previously that got stolen when he was in the hospital and since they were no longer on market here I parted ways with mine but the 9mm makarov Is a absolutely great round can't even begin to describe how well it feels in the hand compared to a Luger. Carrying capacity is 8+1, so you can carry a little more in that regard. It is easy to rack, accurate, reliable, and very manageable to smaller or older folks. They are very helpful and want you to be happy with your pistol. Getting hit in center body mass with 95 - 100 gr hollow point will take the fight out of 95% of the human population. Concealment is key in our world. Page Back Page Next. They are meant to be defensive arms that can be easily carried in the pocket. Jams all Underwood Xtreme Penetrator or Defender. The reason is simple - it's extremely small and versatile. My son bought one, I shot it once, sold my LCP and bought the S&W EZ! Its the best combo of size, carry and shoot ability. Shot the S&W .380 EZ and you'll dump your Ruger LCP or S&W Bodyguard! Yea yea, .380 is underpowered, etc, but if you need something you can handle and/or throw in your pocket, .380 beats a .22 or .32 and anything else is to large to pocket. besides, if you hit the target, the .380 WILL do the trick. I have also put Crimson Trace Laser on both guns for shooting in low light. It's basically a flat-nose and doesn't expand, so doesn't need to hit expansion threshold, and as a result works consistently. So I trade off a couple of rounds and a little fire power in order to have the gun with me more often rather than back home in the safe. FWIW, I suggest you practice with a .380 at the end of your range time so that the sore trigger finger won't affect your other shooting. It's the best of both worlds, no compromise, no having to choose one or the other. And most humans I now aren't and can't be willing to live on a bag of rice, some band-aids, and water along with 10-20lbs of ammo and gun???? In selecting .380 Personal Defense pistols, it would seem that the Taurus TCP 738 Pistol would get an "Honorable" mention if not place in the top 5-10. It speaks to me in a purely utilitarian language, which is fine, it has it's place. Any bullet however beats a rock. I an however new the these little pocket pistols though. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. I watched my son in law shoot his 40 cal Glock at the range it blew a piece of the slide right out with normal ammo I think Remington, after calling them he sent all the pieces to them and they had the gun repaired all free but kept it 6 mos. Should be on the list! A Glock model 30 which is a compact 10+1 45ACP. The Bodyguard .380 is a small, polymer-framed handgun weighing in at 12.8 ounces with integrated Crimson Trace laser. I do not feel under gunned when carrying either gun. The original LCP had a long hard pull trigger like the S&W .380 bodyguard. As a combat vet, I don't want anything without useable sights, which the 911 demonstrably has (excellent night sights) and is accurate (again, the 911 is surprisingly competent at extended ranges). Small, tucks out of the wayand Sig makes great firearms. Many years. Bottom line is I would put my life in the hands of either one of the three guns mentioned. How come the Kimber Micro isn't on this list? It's hard to find something online, as almost everyone is talking about JP/JHP rounds. It's called a Mine were made by Smith&Wesson, you would think for the price they could have deburred those edges. Its an updated design of the old Robaugh, I hope I spelled that correctly. It's easy to appreciate how this applies to the way handguns are designed. The theoretical gain it offers is not worth the proven disadvantages it displays. The SIg will fire Plus P with no issues (although, the added pressure will wear out the inner parts much faster). There are some things that can help you greatly when it comes time to stop an attacker. Final thought? The Remora works great! Tucked into a J&J wallet holster, it's gone but easy enough to deploy. I wouldnt trust the preservation of my life to anything less than a CQB pistol caliber of either 9 x 19mm or 45 ACP; and I use the term caliber very loosely OK. I know snobs won't like it, be I do. It runs Underwood penetrator, defender, Federal HST, Precision one, critical defense, you name it, The only reason I dont carry it is because it jammed on an HST ONE TIME. My groups are much, much smaller now. Kimbers are not made out of a polymer plastic; I think the Kimber pistols are sexy, if not a piece of art, and the tolerances of the moving parts I feel is the best in the firearms industry. hands down. Yeah, yeah they got caught in some controversy, but I'm sure all weapon manufacturers are subject to lobbying BS. If you can't hit the side of a barn in a pressure situation the caliber of your weapon isn"t going to save you. I would like to comment on a takeaway I have. Slips in and out of my back pocket with ease. Less than an inch wide, polymer frame, striker fired. Bottom line for me on this pistol, Ill never get rid of it, but I would replace it as a daily Carry. I am missing 3 tendons in each shoulder and need a shoulder replacement in my left. The V-10 went back to SA, and they did a phenomenal job on the feed ramp. Amazing. It just falls into your pocket. When a gun is light in weight, it doesnt help dampen recoil as much as a heavier gun does. This little gun is so easy to hide in my front pants pocket, or jacket. While a CZ PCR is my main carry, the PPK/s get the nod when the summer arrives. The concealed carry version has a smaller beaver tail which can get in the way on the standard version if you are a bigger guy.. Great gun for the price and easy maintenance. I could go on and on. Though it is probably one of the most expensive 380's on the market, I don't think that should matter when it comes to defending yourself and loved ones. What actually causes recoil in a (combat caliber) semiautomatic handgun? You forgot to mention the Bersa Thunder 380. Utterly smooth in every way. You need the quickest deployment possible and the point and shoot Seecamp is the only one that makes sense. Practice, practice practice. Sent it in to Ruger and they fixed it. No they didnt-same problem. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches it's easy to conceal even under light clothing. But for now, youll have to settle for a high grip. Get some Leihgh Xtreme Defense ammo if you can legally do so (65gr wrecking ball without H.P.) The only .380 cartridge I'd ever use, is Precision One. Jams HST. And stay in touch with newsletters of our best articles on techniques, guns, & gear. Mine has misfired multiple times since I bought it. I have no qualms on the 380 as a self defense weapon and am a strong believer in shot placement. Going to a range and renting as many .380s as you can is a great way to try them out and see which one is the best for you. Plus side for smaller folks is that the slide racks easily and you can even fully load the extended magazine without a helper tool. I went to the range last weekend and intentionally gathered up all 380 reloads from my house that I could find. I've carried a Bersa Thunder for years. This is great because it gives you some extra recoil-fighting weight. DA trigger safer, easier (no external safety), albeit heavier. No problems with cheap FMJ ammo, Hornady Critical Defense, or Remington Ultimate Defense. It is also used by Underwood ammo who produces it in a +P and +P+ plus loads. Boy, did I sure miss out on that one. It goes on for miles and catches me off guard every time I go for more than a short time without firing it. No matter what you choose, the gun on your hip is better than the one youve left at home or in the car even if it does only hold seven rounds like most .380 pistols. (, We noticed that you have previously logged in with your, Check what do you get by creating an account, Bookmark and compare your favorite firearms, Best .380 Pistols [Hands-On]: Pocket Rockets.

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