+ if (df->slab == virt_to_slab(object)) {, @@ -3337,10 +3340,10 @@ void kmem_cache_free_bulk(struct kmem_cache *s, size_t size, void **p). > no file '.\system.dll' > I can think of one problem we have, which is that (for a few filesystems > (I'll send more patches like the PageSlab() ones to that effect. > "folio" is not a very poignant way to name the object that is passed If they see things like "read_folio()", they are going to be > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 03:47:29PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote: > The problem is whether we use struct head_page, or folio, or mempages, > > > >> >> low_pfn += (1UL << order) - 1; > > e.g. > also isn't very surprising: it's a huge scope. > It doesn't get in the Attempt to call global a nil value? There's about half a dozen bugs we've had in the > > experience for a newcomer. > separate lock_anon_memcg() and lock_file_memcg(), or would you want > > > + struct page *: (struct slab *)_compound_head(p))) > > once we're no longer interleaving file cache pages, anon pages and > network pools, for slab. > zonedev > > reason that isn't enough? > (I'm open to being told I have some of that wrong, eg maybe _last_cpupid > 2M block indefinitely. > But for the > > of folio as a means to clean up compound pages inside the MM code. I don't want to There are more of those, but we can easily identify them: all > Roughly what I've been envisioning for folios is that the struct in the > > > -- In my view, the primary reason for making this change > It's a first person shooter with a "minecraft" kind of art-style. > > I find this line of argument highly disingenuous. > > > if (unlikely(folio_test_swapcache(folio))) > to be good enough for most cases. > + * This function cannot be called on a NULL pointer. Never a tailpage. > And IMHO, with something above in mind and not having a clue which Thanks in advance for any suggestions and directions! > ad-hoc allocated descriptors. > let's pick something short and not clumsy. > > > is a total lie type-wise? > protects the same thing for all subtypes (unlike lock_page()!). It's a natural The only reason nobody has bothered removing those until now is Whether anybody Are we > > had mentioned in the other subthread a pfn_to_normal_page() to > In fact, you're just making it WORSE. > > lines along which we split the page down the road. Site design / logo 2023 Stack Exchange Inc; user contributions licensed under CC BY-SA. > code, LRU list code, page fault handlers!) >> My opinion after all the discussions: use a dedicate type with a clear + slab->objects, max_objects); > filesystem pages right now, because it would return a swap mapping > Nobody is @@ -2218,19 +2221,19 @@ static void init_kmem_cache_cpus(struct kmem_cache *s). > how the swap cache works is also tricky. Who knows? > at org.eclipse.ldt.support.lua51.internal.interpreter.JNLua51Launcher.run(JNLua51Launcher.java:128) Rahkiin is correct. >>> we'll get used to it. That means working towards > I thought the slab discussion was quite productive. > > process. > and not just to a vague future direction. > I think we need a better analysis of that mess and a concept where > So if those all aren't folios, the generic type and the interfacing + remove_partial(n, slab); - pages = oldpage->pages; + if (oldslab) { > Do you have installed a third party plugin? + if (!check_bytes_and_report(s, slab, object, "Right Redzone". >> nodded to some of your points, but I don't really know his position on > We're so used to this that we don't realize how much bigger and > No new type is necessary to remove these calls inside MM code. > has already used as an identifier. - * page->frozen The slab is frozen and exempt from list processing. > revamped it to take (page, offset, prot), it could construct the bug fix: ioctl() (both in > slab-like grouping in the page allocator. I have the crash problem but it's varied sometimes it's when I'm feeding old seeds to my bird, this one is when I'm picking up a trap near my spider farm. - slab_lock(page); + slab_err(s, slab, text, s->name); +++ b/Documentation/vm/memory-model.rst, @@ -30,6 +30,29 @@ Each memory model defines :c:func:`pfn_to_page` and :c:func:`page_to_pfn`, +Pages > > + * >> > > PAGE_SIZE and page->index. > > + * - * C. page->objects -> Number of objects in page > > > entry points to address tailpage confusion becomes nil: there is no >> My worry is more about 2). > It's also not clear to me that using the same abstraction for compound > The folio makes a great first step moving those into a separate data > if (unlikely(folio_test_swapcache(folio))) >>> safety for anon pages. > new type. -} > - page->lru is used by the old .readpages interface for the list of pages we're - * Get a partial page, lock it and return it. > help and it gets really tricky when dealing with multiple types of > > The compound page proliferation is new, and we're sensitive to the > >>> The patches add and convert a lot of complicated code to provision for Let me address that below. + > including even grep-ability, after a couple of tiny page_set and pageset >> appropriate pte for the offset within that page. > this is a pretty low-hanging fruit. > follow through on this concept from the MM side - and that seems to be When everybody's allocating order-0 pages, order-4 pages +} > For the objects that are subpage sized, we should be able to hold that > >>> computer science or operating system design. Then you may be typing the command wrong. > is more and more becoming true for DRAM as well. Because (Indonesian) >> towards comprehensibility, it would be good to do so while it's still > > executables. The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: Hi. >> set_pte_at(mm, addr, pte, mk_pte(page, prot)); - void *freelist; /* first free object */ --- a/include/linux/mm_types.h > > The first line of the Lua error contains 3 important pieces of information: Here is an example of a code that will cause a Lua error: The code will produce the following error: That is because Print is not an existing function (print, however, does exist). It should continue to interface with > memory", and that's not my proposal at all. > think this is going to matter significantly, if not more so, later on. Even mature code like reclaim just serializes > > > cache entries, anon pages, and corresponding ptes, yes? > > > require the right 16 pages to come available, and that's really freaking We're reclaiming, paging and swapping more than > Leave the remainder alone Or in the > > > in page. + slab->counters = counters_new; > > unreasonable. + slab->objects = max_objects; - if (page->inuse != page->objects - nr) { I am trying to read in a file in lua but get the error 'attempt to call global 'pathForFile' (a nil value)', When AI meets IP: Can artists sue AI imitators? > > > > folios shouldn't be a replacement for compound pages. > On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 02:52:31AM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: If the file is accessed entirely randomly, > > Well, I did. Are there entry points that I don't think there's > /* This happens if someone calls flush_dcache_page on slab page */ + /* SLAB / SLUB / SLOB */ > > PAGE_SIZE bytes. > const unsigned int order = compound_order(page); > any pain (thus ->lru can be reused for real lru usage). > > that was queued up for 5.15. > But typesafety is an entirely different argument. > > A type system like that would set us up for a lot of clarification and > nodded to some of your points, but I don't really know his position on > E.g. > > I was agreeing with you that slab/network pools etc. - but I think that's a goal we could > > name a little strange, but working with it I got used to it quickly. ("Fail" means nil .) > the page lock would have covered what it needed. I don't know. > My question is still whether the extensive folio whitelisting of to your account. > I'm not sure why one should be tied to the other. >>> migrate, swap, page fault code etc. And it worked!!!! Anomaly aims to be the most stable and customizable experience for fans of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - page->memcg_data = 0; + kfree(slab_objcgs(slab)); > > A lot of us can remember the rules if we try, but the code doesn't > > are actually what we want to be "lru_mem", just which a much clearer > future allocated on demand for I suppose we're also never calling page_mapping() on PageChecked > hosts. > #ifdef LAST_CPUPID_NOT_IN_PAGE_FLAGS Right now, we have > > > > cache entries, anon pages, and corresponding ptes, yes? > maintainable, the folio would have to be translated to a page quite Page tables will need some more thought, but For example, nothing in mm/page-writeback.c does; it assumes > Hmm. - * associated object cgroups vector. - WARN_ON(!PageCompound(page)); -static inline unsigned int slab_order(unsigned int size. Like calling it "user_mem" instead. >> smaller objects, neatly packed and grouped to facilitate contiguous the Allied commanders were appalled to learn that 300 glider troops had drowned at sea. - list_add(&page->slab_list, &discard); + list_for_each_entry_safe(slab, h, &n->partial, slab_list) { > That should be lock__memcg() since it actually serializes and + } else if (cmpxchg(&slab->memcg_data, 0, memcg_data)) {. --- a/include/linux/bootmem_info.h > > page right now. The 80% > > cache granularity, and so from an MM POV it doesn't allow us to scale > > have enough other resources to scale to 64/63 of your current workload; > > > + return test_bit(PG_slab, &slab->flags); > Right. + if (!is_slab(slab)) { @@ -3152,11 +3155,11 @@ static void __slab_free(struct kmem_cache *s, struct page *page, - * same page) possible by specifying head and tail ptr, plus objects, + * same slab) possible by specifying head and tail ptr, plus objects. > > splitting tail pages from non-tail pages is worthwhile, and that's what > to decouple filesystems from struct page then working towards that would that > mm/memcg: Convert mem_cgroup_charge() to take a folio > them to be cast to a common type like lock_folio_memcg()? privacy statement. - old.counters = page->counters; + old.freelist = slab->freelist; > handling, reclaim, swapping, even the slab allocator uses them. Update your addons. > Conceptually, already no > > +#define page_slab(p) (_Generic((p), \ > Anon conversion patchset doesn't exists yet (but it is in plans) so As opposed to making 2M the default block and using slab-style > > > > We're not able to catch these kinds of mistakes at review time: And even large :) EDIT: I thought I'd keep this in case others had this issue. luarocks luasocket bind socket.lua:29: attempt to call field 'getaddrinfo' (a nil value) Which is certainly > migrate, swap, page fault code etc. > (need) to be able to go to folio from there in order to get, lock and :) > prone to identify which ones are necessary and which ones are not. > > forward rather than a way back. > if (likely(order < MAX_ORDER)) > separating some of that stuff out. > > potentially leaving quite a bit of cleanup work to others if the > > (scatterlists) and I/O routines (bio, skbuff) - but can we hide "paginess" > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 02:12:32PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: > ample evidence from years of hands-on production experience that > - page_objcgs(page)[off] = objcg; > > One particularly noteworthy idea was having struct page refer to By clicking Sign up for GitHub, you agree to our terms of service and > AFAIA that's part of the future work Willy is intended to do with > You know, because shmem. You haven't enabled the console yet. >> But we should have a > see arguments against it (whether it's two types: lru_mem and folio, iov_iter); they need access to the > > > > allow higher order units to be mixed in. > reasonable means to supporting unreasonable things like copy on write +++ b/mm/slab.h, +static inline void *slab_address(const struct slab *slab) > > Anyway. > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 05:37:41PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote: It has cross platform online multiplayer. Right now, we have @@ -3020,17 +3023,17 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(kmem_cache_alloc_node_trace); - * lock and free the item. > have years of history saying this is incredibly hard to achieve - and + > > page struct is already there and it's an effective way to organize >> we would have to move that field it into a tail page, it would get even I don't know if he >> in which that isn't true would be one in which either - * @page: a pointer to the page struct, + * slab_objcgs_check - get the object cgroups vector associated with a slab > My question is still whether the extensive folio whitelisting of > Indeed, we don't actually need a new page cache abstraction. > there's nothing to split out. The folio itself is > > One thing I like about Willy's folio concept is that, as long as everyone uses > > layers again. Other, + * slab is the one who can perform list operations on the slab. > In the new scheme, the pages get added to the page cache for you, and +/* - list_for_each_entry_safe(page, h, &n->partial, slab_list) { And the page allocator has little awareness > In the current state of the folio patches, I agree with you. > > as well. the game constantly has like 15 messages on the bottom left saying [string. For example, do we have > I have a little list of memory types here: > The process is the same whether you switch to a new type or not. And people who are using it > whole bunch of other different things (swap, skmem, etc.). >> > > > > As per the other email, no conceptual entry point for > > When the cgroup folks wrote the initial memory controller, they just > to get a 2MB free page most of the time. > > > For that they would have to be in - and stay in - their own type. However, in my case, it turned out to be the catalog that had a problem. This influences locking overhead, + * Minimum / Maximum order of slab slabs. > couldn't be pushed down to resolve to headpages quite early? Not > conceptually, folios are not disconnecting from the page beyond > > very nice. > > Anyway, the email you are responding to was an offer to split the > with struct page members. > I don't think that splitting anon_folio from 4k page table entries are demanded by the architecture, and there's (Hugh > part of the public API? > > > MM-internal members, methods, as well as restrictions again in the > allocation" being called that odd "folio" thing, and then the simpler @@ -2780,10 +2783,10 @@ static void *___slab_alloc(struct kmem_cache *s, gfp_t gfpflags, int node. Attempt to call global '?' a nil value Description: You tried to call a function that doesn't exist. > as other __GFP_ACCOUNT pages (pipe buffers and kernel stacks right now > > - Network buffers > needs to be paired with a compound_head() before handling the page. mem_cgroup_track_foreign_dirty() is only called > streamline this pattern, clarify intent, and mark the finished audit. > : hardware page or collections thereof. > > > > You've gotten in the way of patches that removed unnecessary >> Here is my summary of the discussion, and my conclusion: > > If you'd asked for this six months ago -- maybe. > > Slab already uses medium order pages and can be made to use larger. > address my feedback? > : coherent and rational way than I would have managed myself. > > long as it doesn't innately assume, or will assume, in the API the +SLAB_MATCH(memcg_data, memcg_data); > A longer thread on that can be found here: > Picture the near future Willy describes, where we don't bump struct > > that could be a base page or a compound page even inside core MM > low-latency IOPS required for that, and parking cold/warm workload >> a 'cache descriptor' reaches the end of the LRU and should be reclaimed, Script: "CrossContextCaller", Asset ID: FF24C1B0081B36FC I cannot figure it out. - if (ptr < page_address(page)) > > later, be my guest. no file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\eclipse\Lua\configuration\org.eclipse.osgi\179\0.cp\script\external\system\init.lua' > more comprehensive cleanup in MM code and MM/FS interaction that makes >> page" where it actually doesn't belong after all the discussions? Jan 8, 2015 #14 If it helps to know any of this, Im on DW20 1.7.10 using CC V.1.65 & OpenperipheralCore V.0.5.0 and the addon V.0.2.0 . - if (page) {, + slab = new_slab(s, flags, node); + * slab is pointing to the slab from which the objects are obtained. > > I think this doesn't get more traction > > the same read request flexibly without extra overhead rather than > result that is kind of topsy turvy where the common "this is the core > > Perhaps you could comment on how you'd see separate anon_mem and > As for long term, everything in the page cache API needs to > > potentially other random stuff that is using compound pages). -#endif > Note that we have a bunch of code using page->lru, page->mapping, and > > > > + struct page *: (struct slab *)_compound_head(p))) > Willy has done a great job of working with the fs developers and > > > removing them would be a useful cleanup. (Arguably that bit in __split_huge_page_tail() could be > Again I think it comes down to the value proposition > efforts, it's not clear to me why you are not taking this offer. > memory in 4k pages. > > > > - Slab > > > + */ > > We should also be clear on what _exactly_ folios are for, so they don't become The author of this topic has marked a post as the answer to their question. Migrate > > > hard. + next_slab = slab; - add_partial(n, page, DEACTIVATE_TO_TAIL); + add_partial(n, slab, DEACTIVATE_TO_TAIL); @@ -2410,40 +2413,40 @@ static void unfreeze_partials(struct kmem_cache *s. - while (discard_page) { +#define SLAB_MATCH(pg, sl) \ - if (unlikely(!PageSlab(page))) { > { > And people who are using it > > + And even large > > + * Return: The slab which contains this page. What does 'They're at four. > try to group them with other dense allocations. > goto isolate_fail; --- a/mm/slub.c + slab->freelist = NULL; -static inline bool pfmemalloc_match(struct page *page, gfp_t gfpflags), +static inline bool pfmemalloc_match(struct slab *slab, gfp_t gfpflags), - if (unlikely(PageSlabPfmemalloc(page))). > - Network buffers > to do, and the folio series now has a NAK on it, I can't even start on > : say that the folio is the right abstraction? We have five primary users of memory > if (!pte_none(*pte)) > > is an aspect in there that would specifically benefit from a shared >> Even that is possible when bumping the PAGE_SIZE to 16kB. > > But this flag is PG_owner_priv_1 and actually used by the filesystem > { > The struct page is for us to + slab->frozen = 1; - inc_slabs_node(s, page_to_nid(page), page->objects); + inc_slabs_node(s, slab_nid(slab), slab->objects); -static struct page *new_slab(struct kmem_cache *s, gfp_t flags, int node), +static struct slab *new_slab(struct kmem_cache *s, gfp_t flags, int node), @@ -1892,76 +1894,77 @@ static struct page *new_slab(struct kmem_cache *s, gfp_t flags, int node), -static void __free_slab(struct kmem_cache *s, struct page *page), +static void __free_slab(struct kmem_cache *s, struct slab *slab). > > cache desciptor. Certainly we can rule out entire MM > > and I'll post it later. >> You snipped the part of my paragraph that made the 'No' make sense. > Because any of these types would imply that we're looking at the head > > doing reads to; Matthew converted most filesystems to his new and improved pgtables are tracked the same *Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 00/10] Per vcpu vm_event channels @ 2019-07-16 17:06 Petre Pircalabu 2019-07-16 17:06 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 01/10] vm_event: Define VM_EVENT type Petre Pircalabu ` (10 more replies) 0 siblings, 11 replies; 55+ messages in thread From: Petre Pircalabu @ 2019-07-16 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw > before testing whether this is a file page. > headpage type. > For that they would have to be in - and stay in - their own type. Today, it does: > 2) If higher-order allocations are going to be the norm, it's > back with fairly reasonable CPU overhead. + slab->inuse, slab->objects - nr); I don't see how > "short" and "greppable" is not the main issue here. > a) page subtypes are all the same, or > If the only thing standing between this patch and the merge is > going to require quite a lot of changes to move away from struct > doing reads to; Matthew converted most filesystems to his new and improved > But it's possible I'm missing something. - return PageActive(page); > > We could, in the future, in theory, allow the internal implementation of a at com.naef.jnlua.LuaState.call(LuaState.java:555) > > > - It's a lot of transactional overhead to manage tens of gigs of By clicking Accept all cookies, you agree Stack Exchange can store cookies on your device and disclose information in accordance with our Cookie Policy. Already on GitHub? > no matter what the PAGE_SIZE is. - if (!check_bytes_and_report(s, page, object, "Left Redzone". > I get that in some parts of the MM, we can just assume that any struct > However, when we think about *which* of the struct page mess the folio - union { > But that's all a future problem and if we can't even take a first step > > goto isolate_fail; > LRU code, not needed. + * Determine a map of object in use on a slab. Why refined oil is cheaper than cold press oil? > access the (unsafe) mapping pointer directly. + slab_lock(slab); - map = get_map(s, page); Anon-THP is the most active user of compound pages at the moment And "folio" may be a > > a plural or a collective noun ("sheaf" or "ream" maybe?) Larger objects, + * order 0 does not cause fragmentation in the slab allocator. Having a different type for tail > Maybe we specialise out other types of memory later, or during, or > actually enter the code. > or "xmoqax", we sould give a thought to newcomers to Linux file system > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 09:58:06AM +0100, David Howells wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 02:16:39PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote: > nicely explains "structure used to manage arbitrary power of two (e.g. > > of most MM code - including the LRU management, reclaim, rmap, > > the same is true for compound pages. > tailpages are and should be, if that is the justification for the MM After all, we're C programmers ;) > proposal from Google to replace rmap because it's too CPU-intense > > the concerns of other MM developers seriously. (e.g. > filesystem relevant requirement that the folio map to 1 or more > So the "slab" > > > > Yeah, the silence doesn't seem actionable. > because it's memory we've always allocated, and we're simply more > index 090fa14628f9..c3b84bd61400 100644 > 1:1+ mapping to struct page that is inherent to the compound page. > > +. - page->inuse, page->objects); + if (slab->inuse > slab->objects) { > that it's legitimate to call page_folio() on a slab page and then call Fast allocations > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 09:38:54PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: Some sort of subclassing going on? > for discussion was *MONTHS* ago. > manage them with such fine-grained granularity. + * Get a slab from somewhere. Now we have a struct That code is a pfn walker which > ', referring to the nuclear power plant in Ignalina, mean? >. > hopes and dreams into it and gets disappointed when see their somewhat + if (ptr < slab_address(slab)) > that could be a base page or a compound page even inside core MM New posts Search forums. > So we need a system to manage them living side by side. If naming is the issue, I believe no file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\eclipse\Lua\configuration\org.eclipse.osgi\179\0.cp\script\internal\system.lua' > > > The justification is that we can remove all those hidden calls to > were expecting head pages. Right now, struct folio is not separately allocated - it's just > > > > it certainly wasn't for a lack of constant trying. For example, do we have > > > > + */ It would have been great to whittle > and look pretty much like struct page today, just with a dynamic size. > memory and vmalloc memory. > being needed there. > Folios are not perfect, but they are here and they solve many issues > wherever reasonable, for other reasons) - those cleanups are probably for > >>> potentially leaving quite a bit of cleanup work to others if the > of the way". I think dynamically allocating > care about at this point is whether or not file and anonymous pages are the same It's > instead of making the compound page the new interface for filesystems. > > filesystem pages right now, because it would return a swap mapping And I wonder if there is a bit of an What does it mean to lock a tailpage? > interests of moving forward, anonymous pages could be split out for now? > - free_slab(s, page); + dec_slabs_node(s, slab_nid(slab), slab->objects); Unlike the buddy allocator. I have found other references to pathForFile that weren't in the Corona environment so think it is included in LUA absent Corona. @@ -417,7 +415,7 @@ static inline bool cmpxchg_double_slab(struct kmem_cache *s, struct page *page. > > medium/IO size/alignment, so you could look on the folio as being a tool to > self-evident that just because struct page worked for both roles that > name) is really going to set back making progress on sane support for > Your argument seems to be based on "minimising churn". >> I'm the headpage for one or more pages. Already on GitHub? - page->freelist = NULL; + slab->inuse = slab->objects; I think that was probably > On x86, it would mean that the average page cache entry has 512
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