Pretty good for a girl who stands not quite 510 and weighs in at 120 lb. All I need my bolt gun to do is the same thing and feed from the same mags. If I had to grab one of these and run though, I think Id still go for my late 70s Ruger M77 in 7mm Mag. The 129 gr. Ballistics by the inch is also a nice resource. The Ruger preferred the 168-gr Match Hollow Point load over the 175-gr Match Hollow Point load not by much, but it was enough to make a difference in the small groups. JWR Adds: The Ruber RPR is also offered in the very popular 6.5 Creedmoor chambering, which was just recently the topic of a feature article in SurvivalBlog. Folded length is 31.60-inches and it is easy to fold the stock closed. Ill have to run a comparison test myself, with Federal Gold 168, NATO 147 gr 7.62 & some Atomic match. Thats war. $1,039.00 $989.99. Alternatively, I spend quite a few days in the fall, winter, and early spring in and out of a truck or blind and on foot in search of whitetail, axis, and pigs. It appeals to the mall ninja in all of us. WebSavage Model 10 BA Stealth 308 Win Bolt Action Rifle with Adjustable Stock (Left Handed Model) $1,207.00 $959.88. Also, I think I read vs dreamed that these guns use AR bbls and bbl nuts/bbl extsn to mount the bbls. A One-Time Donation (You choose the amount): A $5 Dollar bill, a 5 Euro bill, a few Pre-1965 silver dimes, or a booklet of Forever U.S. postage stamps sent in the mail also works! I get it: each person can use their guns for whatever application they want. Moyie Springs, Idaho 83845. Ruger Precision .308 Rifle, Review and range test by Pat Cascio I like the Ruger Marksmanship Adjustable trigger, with a pull rating of 2.25-lbs to 5-pounds my sample came from the factory right at 3.25-lbs and I didnt see any need to adjust it any lighter, or heavier the pull weight was just perfect for my use. Never got it back, oh well, history I guess. Im now seeing them priced closer to $700, and even if you find a screaming deal, you still need to get it to your door. I just think he deserves more credit for what he did to influence the industry. Its intended use is as a long range precision rifle, primarily aimed at those who want to get into competitions. But if you take that perfectly serviceable barreled action out of the stock its in, drop it in a nice chassis that accepts AICS Mags ($400-$700), put a 20 MOA rail ($50-$100) on it, and give it an oversized bolt handle knob for better bolt manipulation ($150), youll be in the $1,300-$1,650 range excluding shipping, and various other gunsmith-labor-related charges that might crop up. At 1000 yds. Round #3 was 2 higher, but I attribute that to the guy shooting next to me kicking my mat that the bi pod was standing on as I pulled the trigger. When I finish moving back to North Carolina from California, its getting surpassed. Davidsons version utilizes the proven American action, but it adds a 22-inch heavy barrel chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor or .308 Winchester. Calibers: .223 Rem, 6mm Creedmoor, 6.5 Creedmoor, .308 Win, .300 Win Mag, .338 Lapua Capacity: 10 (short action), 5 (long action) Stock: MDT Chassis Receiver: Stainless Steel, matte black flash nitride finish Barrel: 26 inches (short action), 30 inches (long action) Weight: 12.6 lbs (short action), 14.95 lbs (long action) Sights: 20 MOA Top Rail I picked up an RPR .308 from Fin Feather Fur, in Ohio, for $999.99, theyre offering the 6.5 for the same money. BTHP and the 155 gr. Otherwise, thanks for taking the time to do two write-ups showing that a similar product in a similar box isnt necessarily similar in the important aspects. At this writing, the RPR is running at between $1,200-$1,250 on Gunbroker.com, unsurprising since its still relatively new. Not as bad as shooting 3 1/2 goose loads out of a lightweight 12 gauge, but still noticeable. If you wish to lap out rough spots in a barrel after it has been cut and chambered, theres really only one way to do it that thats fire-lapping. With that kind of accuracy, that is not that much money. Ruger still very much has a winner on their hands. Im not a competitive shooter so I dont worry about shooting of barricades and that sort of thing. Best 5 shot group rapid fire was. Very well said. I didnt perform a barrel break in of any type, I never cleaned it, and I got it glove-melting hot. Bummer. A Savage 10TR (may be only a Canadian offereing) These come from the factory with a threaded, heavy barrel in either 20 or 24. Notify Me When Available. The barrel is 110 twist which I found shoots consistent groups with Fed 168 grain Open Tip Match ammo which performed well as did the Fed 175 grain Gold Match. Long barrels are fine if they come with a corresponding increase in girth. Because of the barrel twist, I did not try anything lighter. That shouldnt be a surprise at all since theyre functionally the exact same rifle from the chamber backwards. In the 29 barrel of the M96, the bullet might be 50 fps faster. I have an RPR Gen 3. Why? In the world of practical accuracy, sub-2 MOA at 500 yards is still pretty good, it just isnt great. So plan on spending a minimum of $1,400 and probably closer to $1,800 when the dust settles to get your hunting gun on the level of functionality that the RPR brings to the table straight out of the box. It will just cost more to practice with the Creedmore. (Believe me, I know I am spoiled). - These are the base models, not the newer enhanced models Rugers also offering now, which are about $300 more. Survival AR-7 Rifle, Gun Review: Blaser R8 Ultimate Carbon Hunting Rifle, http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/story/1616372-sniper-s-hide-complete-ruger-upgrade-review, Capacity: 10 rounds (20- and 25-round PMags are available in the market), Stock: Folding stock, Adjustable Length of Pull and Comb Height. , My .308 Ruger Precision Rifle w/Vortex PST optics shoots 2.5 MOA with168 Berger VLD. It took me some time to get the adjustable stock set just the way I wanted it this is a new type of stock to me, and it took some time to get it adjusted perfectly Id fire several shots, and check where the rounds were going, and make adjustments, and shoot again. The rifle was very solid (save the safety), smooth and very comfortable to shoot ergonomically even with the too low rings. I already have a great 155 grain load for my AR. You cant really get 6.5 in bulk. I load my own using Sierra Match King. This is not a surprise since the R700 is contoured and the RPR has the flat AR fore end. Naturally, this is all speculative on my part, but I think theres work to be done to turn that particular rifle into a shooter. It is a shooter! All shooting was done over a rolled-up sleeping bag, over the bed of my covered pick-up not an ideal set-up, but I didnt want to chance my windshield getting broken from the muzzle blast. Barrels can be easily replaced by a competent gunsmith using AR-style wrenches and headspace gauges. Please support this website by adding us to your whitelist in your ad blocker. That shorter handguard never seemed to affect my shooting from bags, the bench, or off a bipod. Hmmm, your comment about having sell your 300 win mag when newly married, struck a cord with me, as I did the same thing. So far, so good. However, I was giving this Ruger and the Black Hills Ammo, my absolute best efforts on each outing. This new Ruger precision rifle has my name all over it. SST was the real stand out though, showing very consistent sub-MOA groups. On to the biggest difference. That said, the .308 version still shoots reliably and accurately enough for 90%+ of shooters out there. But it can sure work as one, even though it is about 10 pounds unloaded without a scope it could be carried afield for hunting. The two Gen 2 RPR 6 CMs I bought running side by side tests averaged about the same. Still working at longer distances of 350, 550 and 750 yards. Id guess that theres a small advantage to a long barrel in consistent velocities, but only if the girth is thickened to retain the same degree of rigidity. Ive got just under 3,000 rounds through it and am paying close attention to groups for any signs of throat erosion. Like I told the owner of 2 of these guns who bought them for rentals at his range, he said they wouldnt shoot MOA, I said call Ruger, raise hell and send them back. And the blast is a non-starter. I'm hoping for the best with this new RPR. Box 303 You could get an F-class Savage for about the same price. But the big deal with .260 Remington is that is uses necked down .308 cases. The barrel length on a competition .22, which has to be shot standing off-hand (as well as sitting, kneeling and prone) is over 24 inches. Sub-2 MOA accuracy at 500 yards is still fitting five bullets inside the vital zone of anything on four legs that can feed a family of four, and well within the confines of a 10-inch diameter circle. So lets drop it in a Chassis so that it becomes a Wonder Rifle Again, a Canadian Company, MDT offers chassis from that $400 range up to about $1000 depending on the features you want. The rest of the gun is identical down to the trigger, and the slight rattle from the safety selector. The truck was a quarter mile walk, so one of us dug a couple of boxes of Czech 7.62 ball (144 gr) ammo out of a pack. Since that was a virgin bore, may lapping improve its performance? Ive had many bolt-action hunting rifles that wouldnt give me that kind of accuracy. That is impressive. Federal Gold Metal shoots 5-shot 0.6 MOA groups all day long. My RPR in 338 Lapua broke after 38 shots of factory ammo. All offer ambidextrous manual safeties and are a great option for an affordable long-range rifle. The recoil should then be tolerable if you are recoil sensitive. Why dont you ask this young lady how much her Anschuetz weighs? I gave the 6.5 a four-star rating that was much more like a 4.8. The Daily Web Log for Prepared Individuals Living in Uncertain Times. One day, my friend and I were shooting our Remington M700 Varminter Synthetic .308s with 168 grain match loads out to about 700m. And the Germans used Mauser 98s. WebRuger Precision Rifle .308 Win Gen.3 - Jetzt mitbieten bzw. I wanted to make sure I was giving it my best effort. Maybe this one is just a dud? The set-up looks more than a little different than your typical bolt-action hunting rifle, thats for sure. Its all about the ammo. 20rounds of 6.5( highest number per box) is around $20-25. Those hunting handloads are easily moa out of my R-25 and also out of a 16 custom barreled rifle I recently built. I can hit the target (not the bullseye) about half the time. Curious how that works out. (How did we ever win wars with metal butt plates? The problem with this is.it doesnt shoot good enough to be a long range precision rifle. . Check out their 1000 yrd. Its a 2+ MOA rifle. MAG291-BLK If the RPR cant get the same or better, its really not worth it. and Smithing. I have two proven sniper rifles, one a savage axis 270, scoped with a redfield 412. Ads are what helps us bring you premium content. I would buy another 6.5 just to have. This rifle is a great, economical, and very accurate tool. They are considerably longer than the SMKs more like a Creedmore bullet. Great observations (rant) on recoil management and other topics. Every commercial match load Ive tried is sub-MOA. I have a Remington model 600 350 Rem Mag that I would not want to shoot a few boxes of ammo at the range for the sake of my shoulder (or wallet ) but, it was not intended for plinking. When Nick wrote that review, he said street price was $650. BTW, we didnt know we couldnt hit the steel with the old .308 round because the hot .264s (6.5CM, .260 Rem, etc) hadnt been invented yet. 06s are out now. If Im in a situation where I have an issue exiting a vehicle fast with a bolt gun, Ive screwed up, big time, starting a long, long, loooong ways back up a decision chain, starting right around the point where I said Im going to involve myself in something that requires I exit a vehicle quickly with a bolt gun, because it sounds like fun!.. Velocity loss is a problem in long range shooting. It eked out a couple sub-MOA groups, so it passes the 1 MOA for $1,000 rule of thumb. They make them for the RPR. Medium-contour (.75" at the muzzle) barrel features a Ruger Precision Rifle Hybrid Muzzle Brake to effectively reduce recoil while minimizing noise and blast to the sides of the shooter. Lets take a Rem 700 AAC-SD like the one that Nick tested awhile back. I havent shot this Ruger, but I do own a 20 DPMS AR-10 its definitely not a 1MOA rifle. When I first got to basic, that rifle did to me what it did to everybody else, at first, and that would be giving every one first shooting it a massive goose-egg on their cheek, we all lived to shoot another day. Rugers have never been known for their accuracy, especially their old bolt guns with that cockamamey combination action screw/recoil lug. The best five-shot group was a touch under .6 MOA. it is and always has been a super accurate rifle, as long as you dont fire more than 3 or 4 rounds and heat up the barrel it goes south pretty fast when it gets hot. Accuracy at long ranges. Something is wrong. WebKaliber: .308 WinPipa: 50,8 cm, kallhamrad, twist 1:10Totallngd: Stllbar frn 99,7 cm till 108,6 cmMaterial:Kolv: Syntetstock, svartFinish: Blnerad, "Satin B WebRuger M77-GS 308 Gunsite Scout Rifle with Threaded Barrel. Call Rugers customer support with the serial number of your RPR and theyll send to you. Think theyd ever release a 20 SR762 in a configuration like this? Happy Hunting. The trigger was very good and reminded me of the accutrigger on a Savage 10P I regret selling. The military flash hider on the M14/M1A is superb if you can arrange it. l The AR-10 is also a much heavier rifle and ammo package. Where this lack of weight manifests itself quite clearly is in the recoil department. There wasnt much difference between the three hunting rounds when it came to accuracy. There is a reason why custom barrels cost more than factory ones, and there is a reason why serious competitors shoot them exclusively. ; wrench is stored in the bolt shroud. Dont know for sure, but the Amax make large holes for exit wounds. I havent seen one yet that wont shoot MOA easily out of the box. Id love to point to some error in my methodology, but I shot both guns on back to back days, off the same rest system, with the same optic, at the same target, at the same time of day. Ill stick around and read more reviews. A suppressor (the trust route?) So this was a good assortment for running through this Ruger. RPRNation.com has a nice list of upgrades and parts for this rifle. My usual shooting spot already has over 30 of snow and it isnt yet Thanksgiving. I can hardly believe that at 56 Im finally going to break down and get a .308.. Dont ask me why. A-MAX through the RPR for groups and managed to put down a 1.754 MOA and 1.737 MOA group respectively. Keep in mind, though, that the 6.5 easily kept it around the 1 MOA mark at the same distance. Of course, well-trained military snipers have been known to take out a target as far away as a mile, but those are not the usual distances. One more thing, we were all putting rounds on center of mass at the 600 yard range with those open sights. Yes, I too love my .30-06.. From their Black Hills Gold (hunting ammo) I had their 18-gr Barnes TSX, 168-gr Sierra TMK and their 175 grain Sierra TMK loads. So yes, remove that stupid brake and put a good flash HIDER in it. The RPR is built of similar parts with a much higher degree of final finish. I believe the Ruger Precision Rifle is capable of even better accuracy than I achieved. I found the RPR stayed in the gun safe, while the Magpul Hunter actually gets put to use. Both shot better than the 120 and 140 A Max and ELD. Im glad I bought it! Ive tested all sorts of handloads and factory loads. 1.5 MOA at 300 yards is around 4.5 inches. What ever happened to Josh Wayner? Surprised I didnt get any flyers. Some of the best bolt-action rifles include the Remington 700, Tikka T3x TAC A1, and Ruger Precision Rifle. I recall that some posters had custom heavy barrels installed and found .5 MOA or better. In the right hands, a 100 year old M96, or the M38 with the 23.8 good barrel can use the same bullets loaded with RL22 power, and will perform just as well, or almost as well, or perhaps better. One gentleman suggested that a simple recrowning might fix some of the issues I saw, and frankly, its possible that a good cleaning would help. And, Ive heard this asked many, many times do you have any sniper rifles? and when that question is asked of me, Ill point to all the long guns on the racks. They cut the barrel down with a chop saw so no groups were shot for accuracy but they did measure ES and SD with their chronograph which is a good measure of potential accuracy. Match ammo might be competitively priced in the Creedmore but if someone new is getting into long range shooting theyd be better served with .308. Have a look over at http://www.rifleshooter.com they have done velocity vs barrel length for 223/556, 308, and 300winmag I believe. My 06 works just fine. It weighs a mere 6.2 pounds and has an overall length of 38 inches. R700 as is just to get some rounds down range for my hasty and unplanned range trip. Get the firepower necessary to survive in restrictive states! But the M4 crowd is fond of stuff like that. Its awesome they use standard mags but they are too short to handloads the bullets to an O.A.L. The only exception is the buttstock and Id rate that 90% of the way to being perfect. IMR 4064 powder A little over 2-2.5 off-hand. Paid $1079.00. Just about every rifle I know of that guarantees 1/2 moa 5 shots at 100 yards have barrels longer that a measly 20 for example; Sako TRG 42, Remington 40X, any of Don Fraley builds (Advanced Weapons Technology) etc. They are OK up at 800 yds. We live in a land of plenty. UPC7-36676-18029-5. If I didnt think it would break Nicks review engine, Id award the RPR six stars for customization. If you ever decide to get into reloading, youll have plenty of quality brass left over, and reloading for 6.5 Creedmoor is very well understood at this point. Folded Length: 31.60". WebRuger Precision Bolt Action Rifle in .308, 6.5 PRC, 6.5 Creedmoor, .300 Win Mag and .338 Lapua Magnum calibers. 3 inches measured from center of each shot. Also, I havent seen anyone publish a review on the 308 who shot 168 or 175 Federal Gold Metal Match ammo or BLack Hills Match ammo. I could live with either round, for doing some log range hunting or counter-sniping. The 6.5 shot the 120 gr. and 900 it took me 15 rounds to get 2 on paper (barely) and that is a 6 ft. target! Its very difficult to convince a detective, a prosecutor, a jury, and a judge, that the man you shot at 680 meters was a direct and immediate threat to you. Web18.5 cm. PMAGs of course are cheaper, but the only chassis system that will take those is Magpuls new Hunter line. Add to Compare. Wish I had saved it, but American Rifleman did a review of a 16 with their 55 protocol and got ~1moa. Hats off to ruger. May be configured with any AR-style grip and selector. Overall Length43.25" - 46.75". (1 review) Once again, with that said, it can easily double as an outstanding sniper or counter-sniper rifle, in all respects. It averaged about a .55 MOA with match grade factory ammo for the first 800 rounds through it. My only complaint is with the magazine/magazine well. However, the SST might be more reliable. Ruger did their homework on figuring out the things a precision rifle needs. It's essentially a .308 Winchester, In the review above, you claim to have put a brake on this rifle but you didnt specify whether the groups were shot with or without the brake, or whether you tested for any effect of the brake on group size. Gun Review: Ruger Precision Rifle in .308 WIN. If you drop them at several hundred yards away, you may face murder charges at some point, when law and order are restored assuming it ever gets restored. WebDescription. If I can persuade someone to make an extended rail (please, Ruger?) But, just like the 6.5, this can easily be addressed thanks to the compatibility with AR-15 parts. WebA 308 Ruger Precision Riflescope should offer a high level of precision, reliability, and versatility. You said it picked up pieces of the patch, is that something thatll fire-lap you think, or not. Width3.30". JWR is a journalist, technical writer, and novelist. Length of Pull12" - 15.50". So if you get one thats a mediocre shooter, you can go to a premium barrel for several hundred dollars instead of the $1,000-$1,500 it might cost to rebarrel a 700 (Im including blueprinting). Therefore DO NOT consider folding stock an advantage, but rather a hindrance to maintenance and repair its a cool gimmick. It is just not in me, these days. Two nearly completely in the same hole. This previously owned long range After barrel breakin, it is a consistent half inch gun out to 800 yards. I get frustrated with the every rifle must be short and light and look as much like an AR as possible crowd. Had my 308 out last weekend doing a barrel break in. (1 review) In retrospect I probably should have gotten the 6.5 Creedmore. But from what I can tell, the authors ~0.9 MOA seems to be fairly consistent among reviewers. Im not humping a 13 pound rifle to chase deer and pigs, so this new Ruger is a welcome sight. The Ruger SFAR (Small Frame Autoloading Rifle) cracked the code on producing an AR-10 that's as light as an AR-15. With very little training, you can sure make a head-shot on a human-sized target at 100-yards with this set-up. But I still did very well, all things considered. So I would have rather have had a proprietary magazine that allowed hand loading to a proper overall length. Id rather be kicked, than deafened!
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