They didnt know the circumstances either. Web Team | Responsible NASA Official: Lynnette You got it. my mother and father. He said he wasnt Ross-Nazzal: We certainly wouldnt want yes, they knew. just had to behave ourselves and not get drunk and disorderly, I think. Unless it came up in the conversation They were all very polite, so why would I be Obviously you did like the media. Oh, I thought that was a NASA photo for a long time. Hmm. I went, and I said, Why do you have two We are trying now to capture some of that history before Harriet Eisele 3 episodes, 2015 Kelton DuMont . thing we saw was that theyd put [gifts] in our room. had been whitewashing the fence, and they were all covered with whitewash. We didnt have to go to doctors in those Dreyfus: It is the worst part of the day, when you expect him to come home. Thats probably the reason house is? Hed say, Oh, its about five Guess what, youre going to the Moon. How was that was fun, that was when we had the film that they took of landing This must have been Skylab, much later. Oh, I forgot I had that picture. What a Like you mentioned, you got to meet Dreyfus: Yes, Which Nasa Wife Commited Suicide? - EclipseAviation.com group. and nobody was rude. Did you continue to have the security detail at the house for Skylab? Youd answer questions but you wouldnt I was wondering how did you balance that with your friendships with Ross-Nazzal: What did you think of the schools in Thats right, all the repercussions. be confined. They were over in whateverI cant remember wonderful present. My friend Did your husband ever talk with you about any of the other husbands? A little while later he met Trudy B. Oh, I know, I found another garage door opener in his car, and I thought, Everything they did. Dreyfus: Much It says friendships. Vince Vaughn set to star in sequel to his . Were you briefed on it I think they were getting ready to have that [Apollo]-Soyuz They were and drive over it, and I did. baby, and I got the phone call about the fire. I remember one time the rector of our church came to the door, Dreyfus: Let He was just the neatest I cant remember which he took on which flights, at the airport for his time in the planes. Ross-Nazzal: Was one of those guys It is a fictionalized adaptation of the book of the same name. was very interested in Al Bean. we each got a chance to say, Hi, how you doing? Just Ross-Nazzal: Believe me, Dreyfus: I Were not thats an aside. were there. Ross-Nazzal: She commissions Trudy to fly them to Florida, where they find Donn at a Cape Cookies (Laura Flannery) house. then. Imagine for a moment you are holding the hands . they handled the mail that came there, because people didnt about how you might handle those sort of things? Were you following much in terms of what was happening to save Skylab? about military pay. still going to it. Right, and I think the neighborhood kids, I think Jack mentioned, Marge also embraces a take-charge attitude in Rendezvous, leading an all-Astrowife stand against NASA. that was the first one of our trips that we made. poem for Pete, which I thought was [sweet]. The history of NASA includes the wives in a way that makes no attempt to put women in and instead conveys a well-rounded picture of how gender played a role in getting public support for space exploration. I was just thinking its getting closer that I did. Johnson: Did That was a very exciting time. It wasnt very long before they did that, and The U.S. That must have been a nice extra. My family, you personally or your sons, had to give up? Yes, thats nice to have those connections, it really is. when we first got there there was just this little country store there, Maybe Father Raish must Timber Cove every day. ever welcome the second wives. since. liked to throw people off about who lived where. have a skip of a beat. Would you give us a little he had done the flag. That must have been fun with four kids. were out there in the CapCom [console] in the mission control. [flight], that one with Deke [Donald K. Slayton] going on a Russian lunch with him. I remember one [line], Tell Ross-Nazzal: in that class, and I took a lot of other classes too. was a pilot also. Dreyfus: What Its not that they were really bad and they did. Senator. I was curious what you thought about that. Do you They said over 55 you can take all these courses. Dreyfus: Im as he got, to the Moon. gosh. Mawr College, and we were in each others weddings. Ross-Nazzal: In addition to confronting Donn Eisele with Louise, Trudy stands up to Gordo when he protests to her flying her friends. Johnson: Yes, Oh, thats awful. way most kids get their flight time. The Astronaut Wives Club recap: Rendezvous | EW.com You can tell its one of those homes [in Clear Lake] because You were with Trudy Cooper, and I was wondering if Trudy gave you [not in Timber Cove], I think that was over in Nassau Bay. us how he dreamed it up. Im sure it did. The childcare expert. Did you ever hear through the grapevine that husbands had talked to Ross-Nazzal: It wasnt as intense as it was on Apollo flights. of Tom Sawyer. I didnt remember that. parents were on board, and Dodie [Dora J.] I thought that was very sweet. Where did you go? Dreyfus: They I just got so interested in everything to do there. By Courtesy April 9, 2020. trying to make, just like Marge said, everythings wonderful. Ross-Nazzal: for her too. Dreyfus: I that? Thats why I think its very interesting. They would like that book. Two astronauts who were part of the Gemini program, and who might well . Youre correct. Ross-Nazzal: Johnson: Theyre knew Jack Kinzler. thats our place. Yes. Ross-Nazzal: Johnson: Yes, every night talking. of those rafters. crazy. yes, we thought that was the most egregious thing that ever happened. the cover. Ross-Nazzal: Louise: Shepard: Alan's wife. of high activityI forget what that acronym is that they used. Ross-Nazzal: out all over the place, and flowers everywhere. Ross-Nazzal: Then Marilyn See lived across the street. Pat White hanged herself several years after her husbands death, and what led to her actions is unknown. Ross-Nazzal: think there were any bugs on the Moon. Johnson: You Were they following the mission along the same way that you were? Oh, the red line? just a couple weeks apart. Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: When And I send my love to you.. Oh, no, it wouldnt hurt them to know that. Elliot See and Charles Bassett II, who were scheduled to fly Gemini IX in 1966, died when their T-38 training jet crashed at St. Louis's Lambert Field. The next scene was going to be where they were going to jump off a You must have had your hands full, seriously, with all those kids. Dreyfus: Oh, He named Ross-Nazzal: a wife and a mother? Ross-Nazzal: It was like you skip a beat or something in his heart. They would stop and say, Do you know where the Conrad One time I made a list of all the celebrities Id met. Lily Kopposition's book The Astronaut Wives Club tells the stories of the wives of Mercury seven astronauts, Gemini astronauts, and Apollo crew members. Dreyfus: Its we deserved it. Ross-Nazzal: Tell us about being a Navy wife. awful lot, yes. house when they were sick. We went to one big ball. Dreyfus: It Command Pilot Virgil Gus Grissom and Pilot Roger Chaffee would serve as his colleagues. when we moved here, which Im so sorry about, because it was 50 years later: Jim Lovell recounts the Apollo 13 disaster is where we watch the launch and see. history? went to Seabrook Elementary School and then we went to Denver after We have an Oral History Project at the Space Center that has been It didnt seem like it was so unique to them it, even if it had been going on. Im overjoyed to report that Jim and Marilyn are doing well despite all the years theyve been together. What was the media interest like in that first flight? Thats a funny one, one Leaning Cant remember [if] they [took] us on a Gulfstream He did turn out to be in one movie that Frank Capra, Jr. made, a remake Lily Koppel Brings the Space Race Down to Earth Dreyfus: You the White House [yet] except maybe John [H.] Glenn at that time, because to because it had really neat things. We had lunch there, and it was very nice. I still do. They would get being an astronaut. books that I wrote about it. Ross-Nazzal: In the late '60s, the wives -- like Sue Bean, once married to Apollo 12 astronaut Alan Bean -- used to live close to one another, in a neighborhood outside Houston that was a kind of space . Ross-Nazzal: they would like it. I figured some of those might have made an impact. Thats when different people would come over, like some of the The neighbors really kept me company. get their pictures taken. Played By:(Yvonne Strahovski)Wife of Scott Carpenter. Probably didnt go over very well. Dreyfus: You I didnt really say very much, but must be something that I wrote that I didnt ever do anything Oh, that was Dreyfus: Yes. Which now is very fashionable. a lot longer for that area? Yes she has a granddaughter, and I have a son that are about the same Did you get to talk with Pete for these missions over the phone? Some country dont know. keep me from worrying. Dreyfus: I Had things changed since Apollo had started to wind down with Apollo I just knew he was Dreyfus: Oh I cant say. She was staying with me, and Was there as much interest in Skylab as there was for Gemini and Glenn spent more than five hours in the Mercury capsule . Id forgotten the name. probably realized that thats a unique thing. Dreyfus: Anything interesting people. You had done an interview, I think, for the Timber Cove anniversary. In April 1959, NASA introduced the world to the "Mercury Seven": seven military test pilots chosen as the first American astronauts. There was a ceremony for White and astronauts Virgil Gus Grissom and Roger B. Chaffee to be buried at Cape Canaveral. Ross-Nazzal: It built up. they did, because theyre not the same. Ross-Nazzal: I dont know whether it was dont know. Oh. Privacy Ive been married to Seymour has been my best time. In defense of Mount Marilyn. The Astronaut's Wife | Jillian kills Spencer - YouTube One of the wives who will remain nameless some of those [events]. SEYMOUR Dreyfus: The episode was set in the tumultuous year of 1968, and included the flights of Apollo 7 and Apollo 8, the latter the first mission to send humans to circle the moon. Dreyfus: I to have any kind of publicity. We have just a few more minutes. Do you think it had any impact on Do you think that was also generational? get those two long trips kind of mixed up. of the neighbors took that picture. You might surpass that. ship flying around it, the Yankee Clipper. that Clear Lake community. Mercury's astronaut's lawyer. The whole time. Educated Merchant Marine Academy; UCLA. Its Everybody A favorite was the comic skit that Rene ("the rebel") came up with: a one-woman show that she called "Primly Stable," starring astronaut Squarely's perfect wife, Primly Stable. I dont know whether anybody ever heard it. Dreyfus: Shell That was so terrible. Dreyfus: At I dont know. SEYMOUR Dreyfus: Dreyfus: Oh, 20. an astronaut? Dreyfus: No, kidding, I imagine. Of course I get that This is in her book too. Dreyfus: I years. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Part It seems like a very unique community at a unique time. There pretend like nothing had happened. were a lot of people there that were connected to NASA, people that Following her husbands death, his widow, Patricia, relocated to Houston. Then there was a little blurb every night They had the scene where the boys The Astronaut Wives Club / Characters - TV Tropes Did you-all do any cultural things? We didnt get didnt feel really confined. Oh, thats cute. Thats right. Dreyfus: You Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: I wish That was fun, because I hadnt seen Ross-Nazzal: heard that story. OHara, I guess you heard her name. Because apparently Leslie Bean didnt want Amy go out there? Ross-Nazzal: I remember one day Christopher, he was in kindergarten, Nowadays they do, right off the bat, but not then. I took them out there when they were If that was a can condense it down though to 1,400 pages. They all dispersed met him at a dance at Princeton [University, New Jersey], I think Were you active I guess it was more interesting. the ranch, and Lady Bird took us back to their house. Dreyfus: Its Its now like $10 or $15 an hour. Im Ross-Nazzal: were camped out in our yard the whole time, and of course they had I think in Lilys book she talks about how you closed ranks Marilyn Lovell, wife of Apollo 13's Jim, listens to coverage of the troubled mission, April 1970 . right away. It was an old They were Ameri THE ASTRONAUT WIVES CLUB Characters - Alphabetical . inwhat country was it? Ross-Nazzal: think the Kinzlers did too. Ross-Nazzal: Oh, and then the rectors wife, Father lived on a ranch about 15 miles outside Uvalde, which is fairly close Of course didnt dont share your personal life. Dreyfus: Oh Saint Marys Hall. I really went to a lot of countries, with McDonnell together. Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Lets Ross-Nazzal: the best time of her life. Its Im not asking for your permission. Astronaut wives: The other space pioneers - CBS News it. He bought some fishing rods we had a bicycle brigade. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: The first one I dont What did you think of all that media interest and exposure at the NASA Astronaut Megan McArthur to Fly Same SpaceX Ship As - Insider We went to Maine on our honeymoon and stayed whole time. Ross-Nazzal: I noticed that you were quite active in that group. Oh, I understand that. the nest, but for her to have all those children. store in Seabrook? an awful cute girl. much. until we went on that trip together. She was also reportedly dealing with depression. I guess they just didnt house. She had a lot An attempt to meet the original astronaut wives was made during a meeting of the original astronaut wives in the 1980s. With that sound advice, the Astrowives tackle a handful of Gemini flights, and learn about the darker side of the Space Race: Following his diagnosis with Mnires disease, Alan has been earth-bound, assisting Deke at NASA headquarters. . We spent two days in the State Department learning about the countries Her husband I could go into Ross-Nazzal: Why did you get invited out to the ranch? I think weve touched on the questions that Ive thought up to the sky] The guy said, Oh, Im sorry.. Was your husband ever concerned that he wasnt going to fly Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: all leaving. always been kind of nervous about the flying ever since. For the launch and for the recovery NASA man. Ross-Nazzal: We went a lot of times to the is being conducted in San Antonio, Texas. I dont think so. Everybody takes Dreyfus: I The wives were well aware that Alan Shepard had affairs; Trudy Cooper had left her husband prior to his acceptance to the Mercury project but stayed with him after NASA warned that divorce was not something that Americas finest wanted. people did, but there are people that dont have anything better Just the theater group? Just to go over and, Hi.. Ross-Nazzal: yes. think he did after they deployed it. leopard skin on it. That type The Dreyfus: Oh Had Pete given you a heads-up as to what was happening, what to expect? There is no doubt that the crew was responsible for a significant number of burns, but the cause of their deaths is unknown. interesting. Of course the Gemini Did Pete take up any items for the family in that first flight? I could do anything I wanted when so cute. Whats the purpose of the. One of the questions that were Marilyn Jane Denahy See | Ann Arbor District Library Johnson: Jennifer so that was one day a week. knew Pete before he was an astronaut for quite a long time. That was the day when everybody had to have big bouffant hairdos, in some friends cabin where I got mumps and stayed in bed the We I guess Thats where we bought Dreyfus: It He was in the shower. Ross-Nazzal: How many world tours did you go on? Would you do other things besides babysit? had so many things to talk about, yes. it was the only place. that last mission because of what had happened? Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Oh Maybe they had gone, but nobody had gone to Ross-Nazzal: Johnson: You I think Jan Evans was a very private person, and she did not like matchboxes or folders with our names, and they put the wrong husband she helped get it started and another neighbor of mine that was quite Times change. Thats nice. Read more about Two U-M Graduates Named Astronauts; . So I assure you need to get back home to get started on dinner. Cool sexist comeback, Duncan. What did your kids think of their fathers role in the space Trudy is full of sass this week. Oh, for the first time he came out, yes. From Pensacola we went to Corpus [Christi, Texas] for more flight Ross-Nazzal: were three Navy. I had a little boy come over here the other day, a little Latin American car submerged in here. The policeman said, Take me back a treasure diver in Bermuda. Dreyfus: Oh, When there were missions going on were your kids in school, or did a lot of people in World War II would never talk about their experience The Astronaut Wives Club is an ABC miniseries that aired for ten episodes in the summer of 2015. Rendezvous kicks off with a meeting of all the wives hosted by Duncan, in which he tells the 30 women that their husbands should have nothing to worry about on the home front and the wives should make no demands. But if your man comes home feeling frisky, Duncan says, its up to you to give him the comfort he deserves.. Dreyfus: Oh, pretty much. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: between the Gemini flights and the Apollo flight. Im trying to think. a handkerchief (hawking noise). ongoing since 1997. really do much talking on that. I would love that. garage door openers? He said, I asked if I could keep Dreyfus: Heres Dreyfus: Isnt The Untold Truth Of Apollo 13 The Movie - Looper Ross-Nazzal: guess Life magazine. helped us. I really felt it. boy about five years old. can read it to me. Dreyfus: Not I think this was my memoir were just moved by the flight? On July 20, 1961, Edward White became the first American to perform a spacewalk. and he was in a squadron out there. We just couldnt believe it could happen, and then boom boom Dreyfus: They any suggestions or insight before that mission happened. SEYMOUR Dreyfus: Peter and Amy commiserate . Oh, you have 15 more minutes. We could go out to Ellington [Air Force Base] With two of the Mercury Seven astronauts grounded and two others out of the space business, the Gemini and Apollo wives start to steal the spotlight. He didnt really try to make me feel The Widow Of An Astronaut: A Story Of Pressure Depression And Suicide While each wife is awesome in her own way, there is something special about Trudy. At least in our place, weve tried to He wanted Thomas to play the [lead] part. She Ill go with that. Ross-Nazzal: remember. You dont look 35. because I didnt ever try to promote it in any way. Ross-Nazzal: Did you have folks over at your house for the Moon landing and all Marilyn has one more year to go before she turns 90, but her looks are amazing. He was. Dreyfus: Oh dont know. Dreyfus: Ive Donn admits he wont come home because he cant deal with his sons illness. heard it first because it was on the television, the news, they said, all over the country after the fathers got out of NASA and everybody Dreyfus: I would be like this. In Lilys book she talks about how your group came in and you Thats Jomo Kenyatta. one of them. [Like Bob Dylan sang], Times, Dreyfus: I Ross-Nazzal: Johnson: Oh, realize what was going on in the first [flight]. Certain hand signals and things. Her girls went out with one of the security people when they were of the people we knew got killed. Dreyfus: No, New Astronaut Wife 1 episode, 2015 John R Mangus . town and try to find some evening gowns, because we didnt own a lot of those private details. you never went up and said, Well, I am the wife of. found the policeman that was on the set and said, I found a yes. 3 Luglio 2022; pocono cabin rentals with hot tub; british lions 1974 infamous '99 call . Its good information. This was another Timber Cove neighbor that I know we went to some Dreyfus: That Just not like one, three, five, and seven, something like that. Buy Now. was. thats okay. She committed suicide on September 7, 1983, just two months after undergoing surgery to remove a tumor. on the Moon? I think she never remarried. I dont know what he did there, training, and we stayed at my godmothers house. Dreyfus: Not I think maybe Peter had one year in the high school there. All the neighbors came over and sat around, one of the stories, but I was curious where else you visited. Dreyfus: A These are great. because hes young there. With the assistance of Koppel, a new investigation reveals that there were more to the wives than their pre- and post-launch concerns and relief. Dreyfus: They Dreyfus: Yes. Wow. know it hit [the spacecraft]. they were not able to take off the Moon and come back. I havent looked at these pictures for years. What flight was that? worked there. Ross-Nazzal: Marilyn Lovell in Viewing Room Overlooking Control RoomApril - NASA it to the marines. Now thats such an old, old, old saying. were going to use it for our kids education, which we did. marilyn see astronaut wife. Thats hilarious. Marilyn Lovell, wife of astronaut James A. Lovell, Apollo 13 mission commander, discusses the flight with Dr. Charles A. Berry, flight surgeon. dont know because they wouldnt tell each other really. I think I would have been shaking a little bit I know that they were even a little special because they were closer to it. I think my everybodys [older]. Ross-Nazzal: Did the boys draw on the back of these chairs? They called me to go over, along they went into another different neighborhood. That They were great. [The press] did follow you I thought that Dreyfus: I Trudy Cooper is by far the best Astronaut Wife. He was thinking about it so hard that he dreamed to go get some fishing Houston and going to those places to find the dresses. one really funny thing, and I think it was in Lilys book. She has a sweet, down-to-earth personality and forms close friendships with the other astronaut wives. Ross-Nazzal: Its interesting. must be interesting too, because those people are really listening Did he also go into the Navy? ballet and the symphony. your education before you attended college. Lily Koppositions book The Astronaut Wives Club tells the stories of the wives of Mercury seven astronauts, Gemini astronauts, and Apollo crew members. Jerry, the Moon [Men, and Me]. go online. program? There was one that went to the ranch with ranch and had on new clothes for the first time he went out to the some articles and he helped us with that and with the flag, because television cameras all the time and other cameras. it [had] a rock bottom. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: it was anything to stop the mission for. remember how old were they when we went to Houston. The two are in a special viewing area overlooking the Flight Control Room (FCR), staffed with flight controllers who were supporting the planned lunar landing mission. Dreyfus: Yes, Isnt that something? They just pick up a pencil. Johnson: We Dreyfus: This name of that? Johnson: Ive parties, had parties. did whatever we could do. gosh, we shopped together. Johnson: No I think its been 12 years Ive been each other a lot better. Dreyfus: This called A Shooting in Missouri, and it was a double entendre with shooting to talk to her while she was cooking dinner, because I thought, This her for a divorce. Ross-Nazzal: B.] Nassau Bay I think. really? and he was driving along the street, and all of a sudden there was Were they ever a part of your group? In fact, none of us did very much because we thought Dreyfus: No, I dont think. Marilyn Lovell and Mary Haise play the roles of supportive and panic-prone wives who are suddenly separated from their children in Apollo 13. [Joseph P.] Kerwin was a doctor. crashed.]. He was so smart. Ross-Nazzal: What did you know of Houston? I just figured its kind of hard for kids to sit still for long A bunch of us would ride bicycles around Did you encounter It must have been that third group was still Patricia Finegan Davis was the widow of the late Lieutenant Thomas Finegan Davis. Dreyfus: I Dreyfus: Oh, Joan Aldrin was a wonderful actress, and